Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

03/29/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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           HB 105-SEX/REPRODUCTION EDUCATION; SCHOOLS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:02:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 105, "An Act relating to  parental rights in a                                                               
child's  education;   relating  to  access  to   school  records;                                                               
relating  to sex  education,  human  reproduction education,  and                                                               
human sexuality  education; relating  to school  disciplinary and                                                               
safety programs; and providing for an effective date."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:03:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI TESHNER,  Acting Commissioner, Department of  Education and                                                               
Early Development  (DEED), stated  that she  wished to  address a                                                               
few  misconceptions  about  HB   105  before  invited  testifiers                                                               
joined.     She  began  by  summarizing   the  sponsor  statement                                                               
[included  in  the  committee  packet],  which  read  as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The bill  requires school  districts to  allow parental                                                                    
     access  to  school  records  and  to  develop  policies                                                                    
     requiring   written   consent    prior   to   providing                                                                    
     instruction  related to  human reproduction  and sexual                                                                    
     matters.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Parental  involvement initiatives  in public  education                                                                    
     have  been increasing  nationwide.  In Alaska,  parents                                                                    
     are becoming more actively involved  in the content and                                                                    
     quality  of  instruction  provided in  public  schools.                                                                    
     This involvement has resulted  in an increased focus on                                                                    
     the presentation of content and  materials that may not                                                                    
     be   age-appropriate  for   all  children.   This  bill                                                                    
     addresses   these  concerns   by  placing   matters  of                                                                    
     personal identification  and sexual  education directly                                                                    
     in the hands of parents at the local level.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Under  the terms  of the  bill,  school districts  must                                                                    
     adopt  rules that  provide for  notice and  affirmative                                                                    
     written  consent  prior  to  any  activity,  class,  or                                                                    
     program  that includes  sensitive and  personal content                                                                    
     involving  gender  identity,   human  reproduction,  or                                                                    
     sexual  matters, and  a class  involving sex  education                                                                    
     may  not be  attended by  a child  enrolled in  a grade                                                                    
     below fourth  grade. In  addition, the  bill recognizes                                                                    
     the rights  of parents  to designate the  official name                                                                    
     used  by  schools  when   addressing  or  referring  to                                                                    
     enrolled students. The  bill authorizes the enforcement                                                                    
     of these  policies through the use  of civil litigation                                                                    
     by parents  against school districts that  knowingly or                                                                    
     recklessly refuse to comply with the statute.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     A  parent's  right  to information  about  a  student's                                                                    
     physical,  medical,  and  mental health  is  absolutely                                                                    
     critical  to ensure  the safety  and  privacy of  their                                                                    
     children. Given  the complex and dynamic  nature of the                                                                    
     modem  school environment,  it is  counterproductive to                                                                    
     create  situations where  a child's  various caregivers                                                                    
     are not  all operating on  the same page. To  that end,                                                                    
     this bill also prevents  school districts from refusing                                                                    
     to release  sensitive and  personal student  records to                                                                    
     the child's legal parent or guardian.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Finally,  the bill  recognizes every  child's right  to                                                                    
     privacy   by  requiring   school  districts   to  adopt                                                                    
     procedures addressing  the physical safety  and privacy                                                                    
     of  students in  locker rooms  and restrooms  in public                                                                    
     schools.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:06:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHNER  clarified that  the bill  would not  change anything                                                               
related to  the requirements  of Bree's Law;  those remain  as an                                                               
opt-out.   The bill would  not prevent sexual abuse  awareness or                                                               
prevention  classes  from  being  taught.   The  bill  would  not                                                               
contribute to child abuse by forcing  a teacher to "out" a gender                                                               
conforming  child  to  their parents,  and  the  bill  explicitly                                                               
permits  school personnel  from withholding  this information  if                                                               
they knowingly  believe it  would result in  abuse or  neglect of                                                               
that child.   The bill would not  aim to take away  the rights of                                                               
any student demographic.   In closing, she  explained, the rights                                                               
of parents  to be involved  and informed about what  children are                                                               
being taught  in school  should not be  controversial.   The bill                                                               
would make  a key change,  she said, by changing  the requirement                                                               
from the right  to opt-out, to the requirement  that parents must                                                               
opt-in.    She shared  her  observation  that parent  involvement                                                               
often results in more successful, well-rounded children.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:08:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  thanked Ms. Teshner  for her  clarifications and                                                               
welcomed invited testimony.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:09:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEENA BISHOP, retired, representing  self, informed the committee                                                               
that she had retired from working  in the Office of the Governor.                                                               
She summarized her years of  service and background, and gave her                                                               
testimony in  support of HB  105, supporting parents'  rights and                                                               
transparency  in Alaska  schools.   She  stated that  one of  her                                                               
goals today  was to share what  the bill would not  do, which she                                                               
believed would be useful in  combatting disinformation.  Parental                                                               
rights are not new in  education, and parental involvement is key                                                               
to a child's  educational success, she said,  adding that parents                                                               
are  the first  and  primary  teachers of  their  children.   The                                                               
governor's education  bill empowers the  people who are  asked to                                                               
be partners  to engage in  schools and choose for  their children                                                               
to educate them of personal matters, she conveyed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:15:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BISHOP, explained that Alaska  has laws that protect children                                                               
and  teachers, noting  that teachers  are mandatory  reporters by                                                               
way  of their  professional certification.   She  said HB  105, a                                                               
bill that guarantees the rights  of parents to be involved, would                                                               
not remove duties  to keep children safe nor would  it remove the                                                               
instruction in  personal safety  or sexual  abuse training.   She                                                               
reiterated that  it would not  remove Bree's  Law.  All  of these                                                               
[statements] have  been false assertions,  she said,  adding that                                                               
the  bill  supports  what  the  federal  government  already  has                                                               
ensured.  She  emphasized that the bill is not  a prohibition, it                                                               
is  about  parental  permission.   She  urged  the  committee  to                                                               
support  HB 105  for  what  it does,  and  opined  that it  would                                                               
empower Alaska's parents and strengthen Alaska schools.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:19:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KENDAL  KRUSE,  representing  self,   stated  that  she  strongly                                                               
supported HB 105  for many reasons, and echoed  the sentiments of                                                               
the  previous  testifier.    She   expressed  concern  about  the                                                               
negative view of  parents within school systems,  and pointed out                                                               
that  parental involvement  increases the  outcomes for  children                                                               
academically and economically  later in life.   She mentioned the                                                               
declining  state of  mental health  throughout Alaska,  and asked                                                               
how  children can  be helped  if [parents  and teachers]  are not                                                               
united.   Pitting  parents  against teachers,  she  said, is  not                                                               
going to unite or increase  mental health statistics or result in                                                               
happy and healthy children.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:23:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KRUSE reflected  on her  work  in healthcare  the past  nine                                                               
years and confirmed  that she is also a mandatory  reporter.  She                                                               
stated that  it is  important to  acknowledge that  some children                                                               
are abused, some  parents are involved, and there  are systems in                                                               
place to help  these children, which is critical.   She noted the                                                               
diversity that  exists in  Alaska, and  respected that  there are                                                               
parents that  object to  certain things, as  well as  parents who                                                               
would like  "those things" to be  taught.  She stressed  that she                                                               
wanted both  sets of parents to  be able to make  those decisions                                                               
for themselves.  She thanked the committee for their service.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:26:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY BUNKER, representing self,  informed the committee that she                                                               
was a retired  teacher, and gave invited testimony  in support of                                                               
HB 105.  She  explained that she came from a  long line of public                                                               
educators, and most  of her life she had been  invested in public                                                               
education.  She added that  she currently volunteers twice a week                                                               
at an elementary school.  She  stated that she is specifically in                                                               
support of the  portion [of the bill] that  would require written                                                               
permission for a  child to participate in an  activity, class, or                                                               
program that  pertains to human reproduction,  sexual matters, or                                                               
gender  identity.    She  applauded   the  governor's  desire  to                                                               
increase  transparency between  schools and  parents, and  opined                                                               
that  the bill  would allow  parents to  make informed  decisions                                                               
that  are best  for  their child  as well  as  allow parents  and                                                               
educators  to work  together to  help students  reach their  full                                                               
potential.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:30:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TERRI LYONS, representing self, gave  invited testimony on HB 105                                                               
and expressed  her belief that  parents have all the  rights from                                                               
birth  to  be  their  child's  moral,  emotional,  and  financial                                                               
center.   She  stated  her  support for  HB  105  except for  the                                                               
provision indicating  that sex education  would start in  the 4th                                                               
                                       th                                                                                       
grade.   She said  she believed that  4  grade  is far  too young                                                               
with or without approval from  a parent, and that children should                                                               
have a bit more maturity to be able to handle that information.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:33:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LYNN HALFORD, representing self,  provided a brief background and                                                               
began her  testimony in support  of HB 105.   She noted  that she                                                               
currently  spends   her  retirement  helping  to   care  for  six                                                               
grandchildren, which added to the  reason why she cared about the                                                               
bill  and  wanted it  passed  into  law.    She stated  that  she                                                               
appreciated  the grade  level  guidelines and  did  not want  the                                                               
innocence  of children  violated  by subjects  that  are not  age                                                               
appropriate.   She agreed with  the testifiers that  preceded her                                                               
and thanked the governor and the committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:36:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD invited questions from the committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:36:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   PRAX  requested   that  the   testifiers  submit                                                               
transcripts of their testimony.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:36:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE referred to the  statement that the bill would                                                               
not change  Bree's Law; however,  he noted  that he did  not hear                                                               
any reference  to the "children's  safety act" [Erin's Law].   He                                                               
asked whether there would be  any effect on that particular piece                                                               
of legislation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BISHOP confirmed that it would not alter that legislation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  asked how to  teach a  child how to  spot and                                                               
report signs of abuse without  being in violation of the proposed                                                               
legislation, should it become law.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BISHOP replied  that teaching  materials are  quite complex.                                                               
She  explained that  there are  age-appropriate books  and videos                                                               
used in regard to "good touch bad touch."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:40:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE expressed  concern that,  as drafted,  HB 105                                                               
would  prevent conversations  about  good  touch bad  touch  with                                                               
                 th                                                                                                             
children under  4   grade because  it would  imply that  there is                                                               
such a thing as a "bad touch."   If HB 105 were to pass, he asked                                                               
whether teachers  and parents  would still be  able to  have that                                                               
conversation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. BISHOP  replied that  the bill was  about sexual  matters and                                                               
personal  maturation,   two  things  that  are   present  in  the                                                               
education system  and would  require parent's  permission instead                                                               
of  opting  out.   It  is  not  about abolishing  or  prohibiting                                                               
anything, she  said, it  is about  parents understanding  what is                                                               
being taught.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE  referred to the  statement that there  was no                                                               
prohibition in  the bill; however, Section  5 prohibited children                                                               
under grade  four from participation  in a class or  program that                                                               
involves  sex education,  human reproduction  or human  sexuality                                                               
education.   He opined  that "good touch  bad touch"  still falls                                                               
under the  realm that there are  dangers that exist in  regard to                                                               
sexual  matters.   He  stated  that he  was  having  a hard  time                                                               
reading the  bill and not  thinking that it would  prohibit those                                                               
conversations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BISHOP  explained that for  children under the  fourth grade,                                                               
educators teach them  about safety and focusing on  the basics of                                                               
[reading, writing, arithmetic].  She  stated that as an educator,                                                               
personal safety  and instruction on  sexual matters are  two very                                                               
different constructs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:44:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  emphasized the  importance of  teaching age                                                               
appropriate  personal safety  information  and  sough to  confirm                                                               
that  there would  still be  an  opt-out option  for child  abuse                                                               
prevention and Brees Law.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:46:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHNER confirmed that is correct.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:46:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  asked Ms.  Tesher to  speak to  a legal                                                               
memo regarding the constitutionality of the proposed bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHNER replied that she had not looked at the memo yet.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:47:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   PRAX  expressed   concern  that   the  mandatory                                                               
reporting requirements had not been totally successful.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:50:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BISHOP responded  that many  reports  are investigated  that                                                               
turn  out to  be  unfounded;  however, the  law  was designed  to                                                               
benefit children's  safety first.   She added  that if  a teacher                                                               
had information about endangerment, they were to report it.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:55:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX offered a personal  anecdote about a homeless                                                               
teenager who  needed a dad.   He explained  that he chose  not to                                                               
foster  the  teen  because  he  didn't want  the  hassle  of  the                                                               
government looking into his [family].   He shared his belief that                                                               
this concern required further conversation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:56:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MCKAY    offered   final    comments   regarding                                                               
organization and rules for the upcoming public testimony.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:58:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD [announced that HB 105 was held over.]                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Amendment #1.pdf HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
Amendment #1 - HB71
HB0071A.PDF HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
HB 71 Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
HB 71 Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
HB 71 Fiscal Note.pdf HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
HB105- House Education Hearing Request 3-8-2023.pdf HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105-Fiscal Note.PDF HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB0105A.PDF HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HEDC 3/29/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105